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	<title>Comments on: I Can&#8217;t Even Think of a Subject that Doesn&#8217;t Contain a Cuss Word</title>
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		<title>By: Cristal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paragraphein~
   I actually just learned the difference between for profit and non profit this weekend.  Funny how things like this come about huh?  It wasn't something I wasn't told, just something I assumed about what non-profit means.

The agencies site actually states very clearly that adoptive parent fees pay for the processing,counseling they go through, and that all the counseling that the expectant mothers go through is paid for by donations.

Thanks for the heads up though, if I hadn't just dicussed it with my mother in law, I wouldn't have known the difference!!   : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paragraphein~<br />
   I actually just learned the difference between for profit and non profit this weekend.  Funny how things like this come about huh?  It wasn&#8217;t something I wasn&#8217;t told, just something I assumed about what non-profit means.</p>
<p>The agencies site actually states very clearly that adoptive parent fees pay for the processing,counseling they go through, and that all the counseling that the expectant mothers go through is paid for by donations.</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up though, if I hadn&#8217;t just dicussed it with my mother in law, I wouldn&#8217;t have known the difference!!   : )</p>
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		<title>By: Poor_Statue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poor_Statue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 12:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first, I didn't realize it was the response- it was so unprofessional and hate-filled.

Yikes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I didn&#8217;t realize it was the response- it was so unprofessional and hate-filled.</p>
<p>Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: paragraphein</title>
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		<dc:creator>paragraphein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Cristal... Non-profits still charge. Just thought you should know.

Sigh.

The things we're not told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Cristal&#8230; Non-profits still charge. Just thought you should know.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>The things we&#8217;re not told.</p>
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		<title>By: Cristal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The angency I placed through is non-profit, so as far as I know JoJo's a-parents didn't pay a fee to use their services.  They did however send me a personal check for a guestimated amount equal to the week of work I missed, and added some into the check for me to buy new clothing since we found out about JoJo so late and I never had any maternity things.

To this day, Rick and Sandy have been a great financial help to Tyler and I. Birthday gift cards,Christmas gift cards,Anniversary,Moving, you name it, we've probably gotten a gift card for it.  The difference between us and the spew no name is throwing out is that Rick and Sandy do it out of love, not just for JoJo, but for us.  They know we have had, and still have it rough, and we tell them constantly that we appreciate their generosity and frankly, their help.

Without them..there were times we would have starved.  But they are FAMILY, and they do what they can to help us get by.  We have so many reasons to love them....  :) End ramble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The angency I placed through is non-profit, so as far as I know JoJo&#8217;s a-parents didn&#8217;t pay a fee to use their services.  They did however send me a personal check for a guestimated amount equal to the week of work I missed, and added some into the check for me to buy new clothing since we found out about JoJo so late and I never had any maternity things.</p>
<p>To this day, Rick and Sandy have been a great financial help to Tyler and I. Birthday gift cards,Christmas gift cards,Anniversary,Moving, you name it, we&#8217;ve probably gotten a gift card for it.  The difference between us and the spew no name is throwing out is that Rick and Sandy do it out of love, not just for JoJo, but for us.  They know we have had, and still have it rough, and we tell them constantly that we appreciate their generosity and frankly, their help.</p>
<p>Without them..there were times we would have starved.  But they are FAMILY, and they do what they can to help us get by.  We have so many reasons to love them&#8230;.  :) End ramble.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, took nothing from Baby M's parents.  The fee they paid went towards agency crap, nothing went into my pocket or towards my medical bills.

Baby M's parents, did of their own good will AFTER placement, pay for some of the delivery costs...but that was THEIR decision.  I didnt ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, took nothing from Baby M&#8217;s parents.  The fee they paid went towards agency crap, nothing went into my pocket or towards my medical bills.</p>
<p>Baby M&#8217;s parents, did of their own good will AFTER placement, pay for some of the delivery costs&#8230;but that was THEIR decision.  I didnt ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm so sorry, Jenna.

From another bio mom who did NOT accept medical expenses or living expenses, and yet was still labeled a "birthmother" pre-birth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so sorry, Jenna.</p>
<p>From another bio mom who did NOT accept medical expenses or living expenses, and yet was still labeled a &#8220;birthmother&#8221; pre-birth.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now, because I'm a freak, I'm correcting myself:

"Itâ€™s another way of parenting, folks."  NO, what I meant to say (I type/speak before the ideas are formulated correctly.  My bad.  ALL THE TIME, my bad).  It's another way of becoming a parent.

OK, now you can move along, folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now, because I&#8217;m a freak, I&#8217;m correcting myself:</p>
<p>&#8220;Itâ€™s another way of parenting, folks.&#8221;  NO, what I meant to say (I type/speak before the ideas are formulated correctly.  My bad.  ALL THE TIME, my bad).  It&#8217;s another way of becoming a parent.</p>
<p>OK, now you can move along, folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.

Talk about not being articulate.

That is exactly the type of woman who gives adoptive parents a bad image.  I choose to believe that she's not representative of adoptive mothers.  I choose to believe that most adoptive mothers (myself included) aren't out in Internet Land making asses of ourselves and pissing off firstmothers, adoptees, and whoever else by acting like God's chosen because we are parenting by adoption.  Whoopdedoo.  It's another way of parenting, folks.  Thank you, now move along.

I don't even know what to say to this Name Withheld who has spoken to someone who has taught me so much about firstmotherhood.  I am appalled that Name Withheld is ranting and raving about firstmothers "ponying up" and paying for the services they received before the adoption placement.  Excuse me, but exactly what does she think motivates most firstmothers to make placements for their children in the first place??  IF they had the kind of money to pay this and that agency instead of she and her husband paying for adoption services, doesn't she think that they might be able to parent their child instead???  And like Jenna has stated, how dare she assume that all firstmothers are sitting on their butts and waiting for others to foot the bill for medical and all other expenses!!  When she knows NOTHING, NOTHING about the firstmother to whom she is writing!

Is Name Withheld bitter about any expenses incurred in adopting her child?  It seems to be a strange thing to focus on, after all this time.

And now I have to go and pay attention to my son who is the most priceless thing in this world.

Jenna, I am sorry that you have to deal with such hate when you advocate for adoption reform so beautifully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.</p>
<p>Talk about not being articulate.</p>
<p>That is exactly the type of woman who gives adoptive parents a bad image.  I choose to believe that she&#8217;s not representative of adoptive mothers.  I choose to believe that most adoptive mothers (myself included) aren&#8217;t out in Internet Land making asses of ourselves and pissing off firstmothers, adoptees, and whoever else by acting like God&#8217;s chosen because we are parenting by adoption.  Whoopdedoo.  It&#8217;s another way of parenting, folks.  Thank you, now move along.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even know what to say to this Name Withheld who has spoken to someone who has taught me so much about firstmotherhood.  I am appalled that Name Withheld is ranting and raving about firstmothers &#8220;ponying up&#8221; and paying for the services they received before the adoption placement.  Excuse me, but exactly what does she think motivates most firstmothers to make placements for their children in the first place??  IF they had the kind of money to pay this and that agency instead of she and her husband paying for adoption services, doesn&#8217;t she think that they might be able to parent their child instead???  And like Jenna has stated, how dare she assume that all firstmothers are sitting on their butts and waiting for others to foot the bill for medical and all other expenses!!  When she knows NOTHING, NOTHING about the firstmother to whom she is writing!</p>
<p>Is Name Withheld bitter about any expenses incurred in adopting her child?  It seems to be a strange thing to focus on, after all this time.</p>
<p>And now I have to go and pay attention to my son who is the most priceless thing in this world.</p>
<p>Jenna, I am sorry that you have to deal with such hate when you advocate for adoption reform so beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenna.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude. Kick all the ass you want. I'm riled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude. Kick all the ass you want. I&#8217;m riled.</p>
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		<title>By: taramayrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>taramayrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking moron...when I can get back on the forums I'll be doing some serious ass kicking.

Jackass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fucking moron&#8230;when I can get back on the forums I&#8217;ll be doing some serious ass kicking.</p>
<p>Jackass.</p>
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