Comments on: The Census and Adoption http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/ Writing Our Ever-Evolving Story Sat, 19 May 2012 16:21:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mara http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4944 Mara Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:49:17 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4944 Um, my use of ALL CAPS is not yelling, it is EMPHASIZING. Tolerate people yelling at commenters? Wow, just wow. Um, my use of ALL CAPS is not yelling, it is EMPHASIZING. Tolerate people yelling at commenters? Wow, just wow.

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]]> By: Jenna http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4916 Jenna Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:37:45 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4916 Please do not yell, caps lock style, at other commenters. Bad manners. I can handle people disagreeing with me, caps lock or not. I will not tolerate people yelling at my commenters. Please do not yell, caps lock style, at other commenters. Bad manners. I can handle people disagreeing with me, caps lock or not. I will not tolerate people yelling at my commenters.

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]]> By: Mara http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4915 Mara Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:48:19 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4915 Your adopted children ARE different. Putting your name where the biological mother's name should be is a lie. More progressive European countries, including England, do not seal and alter an adopted child's birth certificate. The child is issued a certificate of adoption that is used for identification ALONG with their truthful birth certificate. Why is there a need to lie and cover up the truth? No one should be kept from their biological heritage. NO ONE. Your adopted children ARE different. Putting your name where the biological mother’s name should be is a lie.

More progressive European countries, including England, do not seal and alter an adopted child’s birth certificate. The child is issued a certificate of adoption that is used for identification ALONG with their truthful birth certificate.

Why is there a need to lie and cover up the truth? No one should be kept from their biological heritage. NO ONE.

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]]> By: Mara http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4914 Mara Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:46:15 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4914 Yes, but not asking if the adults are adopted makes them INVISIBLE. Yes, but not asking if the adults are adopted makes them INVISIBLE.

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]]> By: Lisa Loos http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4910 Lisa Loos Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:32:04 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4910 Did you know a lot of genealogists/ historians use Census figures to trace their ancestory? This "division" may be benefit for genealogical research. I would not be surprised if in the future we are asked to start listing if we're gay or straight ... Did you know a lot of genealogists/ historians use Census figures to trace their ancestory? This “division” may be benefit for genealogical research. I would not be surprised if in the future we are asked to start listing if we’re gay or straight …

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]]> By: Jer http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4903 Jer Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:27:21 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4903 The constitution allows for a census to be taken for counting people, not for being intrusive about your money, adoption, ethic background etc. If you have to sign it at the bottom you are signing a contract with the Government that everything is true. So if you lie on the form you are committing an unlawful act. I did not send in my form and instead sent them a letter stating what information they are allowed to collect and told them how many people live in my house. And yes we have adopted, but on their birth cert. it states Dad and Mom (us) as their parents, no where on the cert. does it state they are adopted or that they are different from any other children. And we find this form to be offensive. What's next a drop of blood for your DNA? The Government is evil and uses just about everything for evil. Stand up, maintain your God given freedoms. The constitution allows for a census to be taken for counting people, not for being intrusive about your money, adoption, ethic background etc. If you have to sign it at the bottom you are signing a contract with the Government that everything is true. So if you lie on the form you are committing an unlawful act. I did not send in my form and instead sent them a letter stating what information they are allowed to collect and told them how many people live in my house. And yes we have adopted, but on their birth cert. it states Dad and Mom (us) as their parents, no where on the cert. does it state they are adopted or that they are different from any other children. And we find this form to be offensive. What’s next a drop of blood for your DNA? The Government is evil and uses just about everything for evil. Stand up, maintain your God given freedoms.

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]]> By: Peach http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4901 Peach Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:26:54 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4901 As an adult adoptee I rejoice in the fact the census asks this question. It is way past time for the denial to stop and for the life-long issues in adoption to be acknowledged. The adoption industry has gotten away too long with not providing balanced and ethical statistics and information regarding the life-long issues adoptees face. All of society has "bought in" to these myths that adopted children are no different than biological children, and adoptees have paid the price. As an adult adoptee I rejoice in the fact the census asks this question. It is way past time for the denial to stop and for the life-long issues in adoption to be acknowledged. The adoption industry has gotten away too long with not providing balanced and ethical statistics and information regarding the life-long issues adoptees face. All of society has “bought in” to these myths that adopted children are no different than biological children, and adoptees have paid the price.

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]]> By: MrsJones http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4900 MrsJones Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:01:51 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4900 My best friend called me, very frustrated, when she was filling out the census form. Both her children (my Godchildren) adopted. I encouraged her to adopt when they had difficulty having a child. She and her husband were fortunate enough to be there when their children were born. She helped deliver the second child. They love those two as much as I love mine. Her children are too young to know the difference between biological children and adopted children. It is not something they choose to share with others, though when the time comes, they will let their children know. She was shocked, as am I, that there is a box for adopted vs biological children. We both pondered the rationale. We discussed the difference between adopted and foster and why that may be reasonable to record. So far, there doesn't seem to be a clear one. At the point that state records are available to record adoption stats, I don't see why it is necessary to differentiate between the two. Families come together in so many different ways that the census can not possibly cover them all and I don't get where this additional check box adds anything truly of value that couldn't be found elsewhere.. My best friend called me, very frustrated, when she was filling out the census form. Both her children (my Godchildren) adopted.

I encouraged her to adopt when they had difficulty having a child. She and her husband were fortunate enough to be there when their children were born. She helped deliver the second child. They love those two as much as I love mine. Her children are too young to know the difference between biological children and adopted children. It is not something they choose to share with others, though when the time comes, they will let their children know.

She was shocked, as am I, that there is a box for adopted vs biological children. We both pondered the rationale. We discussed the difference between adopted and foster and why that may be reasonable to record. So far, there doesn’t seem to be a clear one. At the point that state records are available to record adoption stats, I don’t see why it is necessary to differentiate between the two. Families come together in so many different ways that the census can not possibly cover them all and I don’t get where this additional check box adds anything truly of value that couldn’t be found elsewhere..

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]]> By: Claudia Corrigan D'Arcy http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4899 Claudia Corrigan D'Arcy Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:55:58 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4899 I had too many thoughts on this....disn't want to hyjack.. but thank you.. I was inspired to post: http://www.musingsofthelame.com/2010/03/are-adoptees-different.html I had too many thoughts on this….disn’t want to hyjack..

but thank you.. I was inspired to post:

http://www.musingsofthelame.com/2010/03/are-adoptees-different.html

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]]> By: kathy http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/2010/03/15/the-census-and-adoption/comment-page-1/#comment-4898 kathy Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:48:31 +0000 http://thechroniclesofmunchkinland.com/?p=984#comment-4898 As the mother of an egg donI or child, I find this very narrow minded and upsetting. I want to either check every box to confuse or cross out bio and adoptive. As the mother of an egg donI or child, I find this very narrow minded and upsetting. I want to either check every box to confuse or cross out bio and adoptive.

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